Yes, Doctors Can Cry Too: Addressing Physician Grief and Moral Injury (Pedraza, 5/26/2021)

Muchas Gracias to Dr. Ruth Pedraza for an important presentation this week on Physician Grief and Moral Injury. Dr. Pedraza was the chief resident in charge of the inpatient adult medicine service at SSRRH during the peak of the COVID-19 pandemic in Sonoma County (mid December through mid January of this year). She lead her team with grace.  Please take the time to watch a recording of her wonderful and relevant presentation HERE.

For the readers, here are my notes, but first my personal take home: we health care providers, need to acknowledge that this job is HARD, that the pandemic made a hard job harder, and we all have tons of unprocessed grief that we need to address. It doesn't matter if we are just at the beginning of our career or winding down, or somewhere in between. The weight is real.

As Dr. Pedraza said at the start, "The culture of medicine is so so rushed, and sometimes it can deny us the right to stop, to process, and to grieve. I did not feel prepared to support my team for such a traumatic cycle. I did not know how to honor our patients, I did not know what was appropriate."


Each flame in this image represents a patient death on the Adult Medicine Service during a four week cycle 7, mid Dec 2020-mid Jan 2021 (75% from COVID)

Physician grief

What is grief? An emotional and physical response to a loss. That loss can be death, but other losses can also provoke grief, including a divorce, losing a friend, losing a job. This has been a year of losses. Emotional grief reactions may include anger, guilt, anxiety, sadness, despair. Physical grief reactions may include trouble sleeping, changes in appetite, physical problems, or even illness. Grief and mourning are different, though we often conflate the two; grief is internal, mourning is an external expression (e.g. crying, art, music, prayer, journaling, etc).

How do you grieve? 

Dr. Pedraza reminded us of the 5 stages of grief, outlined by. Dr Elizabeth Kubler Ross (Swiss psychiatrist), based on her work with terminally ill patients (see image below). Initially it was thought that everyone experiences these stages in a linear fashion, but now we know some people may skip some, never experience some, get stuck in certain stages, etc. The truth is that people's responses to grief are very different.


Many physicians witness death in our professional lives, but we have very little training, acknowledgement, and inadequate space in the medical culture to process our own grief appropriately. Physicians experience emotional exhaustion, isolation, shame and guilt. Unprocessed grief leads to trauma. In some ways, our profession punishes doctors for grieving. 

We know that physicians can engage in negative coping mechanisms, which can be dangerous for our patients AND our personal lives and families. These may include alcohol, drugs, even firearms

Do doctors grieve when their patients die? Dr. Pedraza cited a powerful study by Granek et al from Canada, interviewing 20 oncologists varying in age, sex, ethnicity and years of experience. She found that oncologists struggle to manage their feelings of grief with the detachment they felt necessary to do their job. More than half cited feelings of failure, self doubt, sadness and powerlessness. 

She also found that grief in the medical context is considered shameful and unprofessional. Even though doctors wrestle with experience of grief, they often hide their feelings because it is considered professional weakness. The single most consistent finding in these oncologists was the description of compartmentalization with regards to patient loss. 

Compartmentalization is a pretty natural impact of continual loss. Denial, disassociation to describe death of a patient-- leading to unacknowledged grief. Leading to distractedness, inattentiveness, irritability, emotional exhaustion and burnout. They also admitted that this would lead them to provide more aggressive chemo, referral for clinical trial or suggest surgery when actually palliative care would have been a better option for that patient. Also impacting ability to communicate with patients about end of life discussions. Half admitted distancing themselves from dying patients, less overall effort toward the dying patient.

Do you compartmentalize? How does that manifest in your care of patients? What about your care of loved ones?

What is the physician culture about crying and expressing grief? We all express sadness in different ways; there exist generational differences, gender differences, and specialty differences. What about crying in front of patients? Is it acceptable? Is it unprofessional? The prevailing belief in medicine is that physicians should be composed and calm. While it is expected that it may happen, it's expected to occur in a private place. 2009 study noted that 69% of students, 74% of residents self reported crying due to patient losses

viral photo (and words) Southern California ER MD after 19 year old patient died


The truth is that patients desire care from doctors who are connected and feel their emotions deeply.

Have you cried with a patient? How did that go? Have you tried not to cry with a patient? Why?

Moral Injury

Reframing clinical distress. There is an increasing awareness of working in medicine, critical care, and terminal illness

Burnout--a constellation of symptoms (malaise, fatigue, frustration, cynicism inefficacy) that arise from making excessive demands on energy, strength or resources in the workplace-- is an important notion in medicine, and more than half of physicians experience these symptoms. However, many clinicians have resisted this characterization because it doesn't quite encapsulate what many physicians feel. 

In 2018, Drs. Talbot and Dean wrote an article on the Moral injury; it was titled Physicians aren't "burning out". They are suffering from moral injury. You can find that paper here

The notion of moral injury is most often described in Vietnam Vets, returning from a war they didn't believe in. 

Moral injury occurs when we perpetrate, bear witness to, or fail to prevent an act that transgresses our deeply held moral beliefs. In healthcare, this equates to systems issues that prevent us from putting our patients first.This is an oat that is the core of our working lives. As clinicians we are increasingly forced to consider other demands: EHR, documentation, insurance company, hospital administration. Every time we make a decision that conflicts with our patient's best interest, we feel a sting of moral injustice. The cumulative effect is moral injury.

Whereas the treatment for burnout is affirming individual coping skills (e.g. yoga, mindfulness, wellness retreats, and meditation practice); the treatment for moral injury is aligning the system's goals with the physician's goals. It is absurd to believe that yoga will solve the problem of treating patients who cannot get the correct medical care, having 12 minutes to discuss huge life choices with patients. The moral injury of healthcare is being unable to provide high quality care and healing in the face of our system. So many parts of our medical system prevent us from spending time with patients, fear of litigation causes us to overtest and overtreat, patient satisfaction scores can silence physicians from providing necessary (but unwelcome) advice to patients.

Does the notion of moral injury resonate with you? How so?

The COVID Burden and Unanticipated Grief

The pandemic has brought grief to a different level for many of us. 

ICU Physician Perspective. Consider reading  this reflection by Dr. Thanh Naville (UCLA ER physician) titled "I am an ICU Doctor. I am haunted by what I've seen during the recent COVID-19 surge."  She speaks to the notion of how COVID-19 made it impossible to fulfill her own mission statement: help people. How her sense of defeat has been palpable. 

Let's not forget the disproportionate effect of COVID on poor communities and communities of color. This also was palpable this year at SSRRH.

And, lest we forget, the outpatient providers were also impacted tremendously. As quoted one outpatient family physician: "I may not have the acute wound of watching people die of COVID in the hospital, but I have a chronic wound. . the space of holding for death of family members."

What are your wounds from this pandemic? How can you help yourself heal these wounds?

And it's not just health care workers. Our entire communities are grieving loss of jobs, contact, community, travel, etc. We need to grieve as a community. It is okay to cry. Allow ourselves the space to rest and heal.

How can we address Physician Grief?

We may all grieve differently, but grieve we must. For our own good and the good of our patients. Different ideas: death talks, professional grief support, didactic preparation for med students and residents, death rounds (for trainees), personal awareness, writing of clinical obituaries. Many other ways. Each of us must determine most effective personal style for resolving patient loss.

If you need help, here are some resources for physicians, compiled by Dr. Pedraza.



AI in Radiology (Rael, 5/19/21)

Thanks to SMGR Radiologist, Dr. Jesse Rael, for a thought-provoking Grand Rounds titled AI in Radiology this week. Super interesting. 

The recording is available HERE for your viewing pleasure. 

Here are my thoughts on Dr. Rael's presentation: 

facial recognition at airport (cnn.com)

Artificial intelligence is the the theory and development of computer systems able to perform tasks that normally require human intelligence, such as visual perception, speech recognition, decision-making, and translation between languages.

AI is present in many aspects of modern life, including facial ID, social media platforms, google search, digital voice assistants (siri and alexa), smart home devices, amazon recommendations, and more.

The topic of AI feels very far from where we are in the world of safety net primary care-- where literally just getting a patient a follow up appointment with a PCP feels like moving a mountain. But I am not sure my sense is actually accurate. In fact, Dr. Manny Mendoza gave a Grand Rounds just a few months ago on AI in Primary Care. The link to that GR summary and recording is here. And the truth is, AI is already making changes in primary care: decision-making tools, benign vs. malignant lesions in dermatology, chronic disease management and more.

With regards to radiology, AI means a computer that is trained to interpret images to either rule in/out a radiographic diagnosis. This could include a wide range of diagnoses, from fractures to pulmonary emboli to cancer, and beyond.

Proponents of AI in radiology argue that radiologists are expensive, there is increasing expectations of productivity, that imaging is getting more complex, numbers of images per study are increasing, and that AI could streamline and improve that work. 

Dr. Rael doesn't think that computers are going to replace radiologists, BUT, he believes, radiologists who don't adopt the evolving technology will likely be replaced. In his words, AI could be considered equivalent to autopilot in a jet engine cabin-- the pilot is absolutely needed, particularly for complex situations, and the autopilot function is there to help him do his job better. 

Dr. Rael's hope is that AI will help radiologists to become more productive, enhance protocols, be available where radiologists are not, and more. And, as he points out, radiologists do much more than interpret images-- they are involved in clinician-to-clinician and clinician-to-patient communication, QA, education, policy making, hands on scanning, biopsies, etc.

Dr. Rael spent some time helping us to understand the concept of "deep learning" currently being used in image interpretation. He showed us how a computer can "see" images (e.g. a kidney or a brain lesion) on a screen.


There are many different current AI projects around the world: identification of pulmonary edema on CXR, white matter abnormalities in very preterm infants, PE recognition, benign vs. malignant breast lesions, abnormalities in knee MRI, and automatic scan range delimitation in Chest CT. The possibilities are endless! Dr. Rael himself is involved in a neuroradiologic project looking at image analysis for different brain lesions-- what does a glioblastoma look like? How can a computer recognize it?

And what about global health implications for providers working in places where there are not only no radiologists, but no machines to image (e.g. butterfly ultrasound with images being interpreted by offsite AI)? 

What do you think about AI in radiology and AI in general in medicine? Deeply interesting, kind of scary, and definitely cool.

My advice for this week: if you have a question about a radiographic finding, don't forget to call your friendly local radiologist-- I always feel like I understand more about a complex impression, after I have spoken to a real live human radiologist. Will that always be so?




Practical Reproductive Medicine for the Primary Care Provider (Uzelac, 5/12/2021)

Many thanks to Dr. Peter Uzelac, medical director of the Marin Fertility Center, who gave a really great presentation this week on reproductive medicine  for primary care providers. He covered a lot of important topics that are not bread and butter for us, but that are definitely important to understand and consider in caring for patients of reproductive age. Dr. Uzelac also gave us some great insight as to what patients can/are doing themselves and what we can/might recommend.

For those of you who want to see the presentation, a video recording is available HERE.

For my notes, keep reading. . . 

Optimizing Natural Conception: 

  • the "fertile window" is a 6 day interval when conception is possible, ending on the day of ovulation
  • frequency of intercourse recommended for optimal fertility success: q1-2 days in the fertile window (though 2-3 times/week nearly equivalent)
  • there is no substantial evidence that monitoring increases success
    • it turns out that changes in cervical mucus performs as well or better than basal body temperature (BBT) or urinary LH
  • no timing, position, resting around sexual intercourse have any impact on fertility
  • moderate alcohol (1/day) or moderate caffeine (1 cup coffee/day) is probably okay
  • smoking, recreational drugs (including marijuana) are not good

Causes of infertility: 
  • male factor 30% 
  • diminished ovarian reserve 30%
  • ovulatory dysfunction 10%
  • tubal/peritoneal 20%
  • unexplained 10%

When should someone be evaluated for infertility?

In the absence of a remarkable history or physical findings, treatment should be started if no pregnancy results after active attempt for pregnancy within:
    • 12 months for women <35 (85% of couples trying to get pregnant will be successful after 12 months)
    • 6 months for women >35
    • Immediate evaluation and tx for women >40

3 "Tiers" of Diagnosis and Treatment of Infertility
  • Tier 1: for all couples; focus on the basics: eggs, uterus/tubs, sperm
  • Tier 2: ~15% of people; more focused, newer diagnostics, less validates (endometriosis, chronic endometritis, molecular sperm assessment, things only seen during ovarian stimulation or embryo culture)
  • Tier 3: difficult/rare cases, after multiple treatment failures (immunomodulation, uterine microbiome) 

What historical clues can help?  
  • Menstrual history:
    • Intervals: 28 days +/- 7 is considered normal
    • abnormal uterine bleeding (structural, hormonal, endometriosis)
    • pain/dysmenorrhea (endometriosis)
  • Duration of infertility: unsurprisingly, the longer the problem, the harder to solve
  • Gs and Ps
  • How many children desired? (start planning with first child--> embryo banking)
What physical clues can help?
  • ultrasound (cysts, polyps, fibroids, adenomyosis)
  • BMI (extremes, upper and lower)
  • androgen excess (especially in oligomenorrhea)
  • Thyroid
How do you know a woman is ovulating? There are many ways to detect, none are perfect
  • Of note, 1-12% of normal women's cycles are anovulatory (more likely in extremes of reproductive age)
  • You can detect ovulation through a variety of methods:
    • mid cycle symptoms: discharge, mittelschmerz
    • moliminal symptoms (fluid, breast tenderness, craving, mood)
    • hormones: LH surge, mid-luteal progesterone (normal is >3ng/ml, drawn one week prior to expected menses rather than on a specific cycle day; levels may vary 7-fold even within hours)
    • Ultrasound: dominant follicle, corpus luteum cysts
What patients may be doing to detect ovulation? Tracking w/apps, diary good start but women get too focused on these, urine ovulation kits (detect both LH surge and estrogen surge as well), wearables, post-ovulatory progesterone kit. All can be used to demonstrate ovulation and time intercourse. 

Pearl: Eumenorrheic patients with sporadic anovulation doesn't impact fertility. They will eventually get pregnant over the 12 month interval! Many women get very focused on this step. Try to have patient focus less on ovulation if they are generally ovulating.

What about ovarian reserve? This is often the most important factor in fertility; age is so impactful on chances for successful pregnancy. Plus, fertility doctors can fix almost anything EXCEPT ovarian reserve
  • all eggs a woman will ever have are present at birth
  • apoptosis occurs through a woman's lifetime
    • egg survival falls more around age 35/37, fertility ends early 40s, but menopause doesn't happen until closer to 50
  • for a woman's last 10 years, she often has  regular periods but not able to get pregnant
    • last child statistically  is age 42, pregnancy is possible but not probable after 43


Ovarian reserve testing: REI no longer use FSH/E2 (not sensitive enough), or provocative tests, really test of choice is anti Mullerian hormone (AMH)
  • AMH is more sensitive than FSH (can be done on OCPs, needs to be adjusted by 30%). 
  • A follow-up test: antral follicle count (on ultrasound)
Of note, these markers are poor predictors of fecundability , they mostlyt help to characterize where a patient is on their fertility timeline, not really a great test to predict pregnancy. REI uses them to predict response to stimulation in IVF

What patients are doing? At home "hormone testing" not well validated, often include hormones not assessed at the same time as other hormones, so not great. Would NOT recommend.

Fertility ultrasound (Antral follicle):

What you are looking for on ultrasound:
  • early resting follicles 2-10mm
  • dominant follicle 20-28mm prior to ovulation
  • corpus luteum cyst left behind right after ovulation

Uterus/tubes:
  • For tubes: hysterosalpingogram (HSG): proximal and distal tube occlusion, adhesions, etc
    • not great for uterine cavity visualization, cannot differentiate septate from bicornuate uterus
    • bilateral FILL and SPILL, delays in fill/spill, obstruction (proximal vs. distal), hydrosalpinx
  • For uterus: saline sonogram (hysterosonography) defines size and shape of uterine cavity (91% sensitivity, 84% spec for intrauterine pathology: polyps, myomas, synechiae)
  • hysteroscopy is not typically done unless plan for intervention (e.g. ablate septum, polypectomy)
Male factor:
  • history: prior fertility, erectile or ejaculatory dysfunction, anabolic steroid use (testosterone, previous abdominal or scrotal surgery, STD
  • semen analysis: concentration, motility, morphology
  • see WHO guidelines below for normal values
  • results are a SPECTRUM: more abnormal parameters, the higher increase in fertility problems
  • only a spot check, lots of fluctuations (should be repeated if abnormal)
What are patients doing? Home semen analysis is available: 
  • Yo test ($50)
  • Fellow: send in kit, conventional semen analysis  ($170)

Tier 2 conditions to consider:
  • Endometriosis, underdiagnosed, classically a surgical diagnosis, now fertility doctors using specialty markers
  • Chronic endometritis
  • Microbiome

Reproductive Therapeutics 
"Simple fixes"
  •  Polypectomy, ovulation induction in PCOS, IUI for mild male factor, etc
Superovulation and Intrauterine insemination (IUI) for women <37
  • Clomid or letrozole x 5 days
  • IUI (with sperm washing)
*NEW guidelines 2020: Immediate IVF should be offered in women >38 years of age

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